02-15-2014, 04:08 AM
I've never heard doujinshi, so I wouldn't know.
Obscurity and Relativity
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02-15-2014, 04:08 AM
I've never heard doujinshi, so I wouldn't know.
02-15-2014, 04:17 AM
Though we are getting off of the topic at hand.
02-15-2014, 04:41 AM
I don't think you could say Tool is obscure. If you want to say something is unknown to a certain audience than you should just say that, I think obscure just means unknown in general. Like Gil Scott Heron is an obscure musician, or John Frusciante's solo stuff. I would say that theres definitely a level of commercial success and being known past which the word obscure doesn't apply. Like if less than 1% of the population knows about something I'd say its obscure. I dunno what an upper bound would be on that percentage though. And actually 1% is still a lot of people...
02-15-2014, 04:52 AM
(02-15-2014, 04:41 AM)Danjo Wrote: I don't think you could say Tool is obscure. If you want to say something is unknown to a certain audience than you should just say that, I think obscure just means unknown in general. Like Gil Scott Heron is an obscure musician, or John Frusciante's solo stuff. I would say that theres definitely a level of commercial success and being known past which the word obscure doesn't apply. Like if less than 1% of the population knows about something I'd say its obscure. I dunno what an upper bound would be on that percentage though. And actually 1% is still a lot of people... I just had this conversation on Facebook with Solidsnakegibson (aka Gibson_SG_User55) and he said a better term would be non-mainstream, or something along the lines of that. So that would probably fit your upper bound situation. So you can make a list or video saying "non-mainstream music: Radiohead" and not get that many funny looks, as we can agree that Radiohead does have a more niche appeal for people who only listen to what's on the radio, but well enough known to inappropriately call it obscure.
02-15-2014, 04:56 AM
Yeah, I would agree with that, Tool and Radiohead aren't mainstream, but they also aren't obscure.
02-15-2014, 06:02 AM
I definitely wasn't saying all shonen are battle shows. Just that those 3 anime are battle shows and then recognised as shonen manga too so I called them battle shonen. I'm not that bad.
02-15-2014, 06:40 AM
(02-15-2014, 06:02 AM)there Wrote: I definitely wasn't saying all shonen are battle shows. Just that those 3 anime are battle shows and then recognised as shonen manga too so I called them battle shonen. I'm not that bad. But you're still using shonen like there's something separating battle shonen anime from other battle anime, which I've discussed that the only difference sometimes is where or how the source material is printed (or if there is source material). Also it's incorrect to label anime as shonen as it's a manga term, not anime term.
02-15-2014, 06:50 AM
I just want you to refrain from using that combination as it's kind of being used incorrectly. It's kind of a peeve of mine, sort of like how fans of hardcore genres and metal hate seeing people slap screamo on everything with harsh vocals when it's its own genre.
02-16-2014, 04:26 AM
(02-15-2014, 06:50 AM)Grungie Wrote: I just want you to refrain from using that combination as it's kind of being used incorrectly. It's kind of a peeve of mine, sort of like how fans of hardcore genres and metal hate seeing people slap screamo on everything with harsh vocals when it's its own genre.Or when people call it "Metalcore" when it's not. :x |
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